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Originally Posted by macjunkieTURKEY
no, armenians live in a harmony with turks because their nationality is turkish they live work and go to school in turkey and they are used to living in turkey and in a national base there is no hostilaty in turkey i dunno where you live but you speak too big and pretentious i dont think you have ever come to turkey or did any research about this on an academic bases ARMENIANS AND TURKS LOVE EACH OTHER. and many armenian turks and intellectuals are really angry about france's law since they are afraid that this harmony will break down. since its not proven yet i am saying again IF there is an armenian genocide it was decided by ottoman empire rulers .republic of turkey and turkish muslim nation had nothing to do with it. please try to learn some facts from academic texts and historians rather tthan your grand parents which are probaly were children by that time and turned against by their biased and angry families ( which is i can understand why). and according to turkish intellectuals who accept the genocide the main reason of the genocide is the fact that armenians refused to war against the russians. which makes me think that armenians never wanted to be a part of the turkish nation.
I PERSONALLY LOVE EVERY RACE NATION RACE AND RELIOGION AND THINK DIVERSİTY IS A NECESSITY BECAUSE DIFFERENT PEOPLE MAKE WORLD EVEN MORE COLORFUL. i hope someday the world come over this issues but i beg you dont think armenians are brutalized here. they have their own schools and everything and they are even richer than turks. they are very crafted in things such as antique and jewelry and they are such a beautiful color in turkey i am happy they exist i hope one day you and your granny come here and visit me kiss your granny's hand then put her hand on your forehand for me this is a respectful gesture for elderly people in turkish customs
and btw i am a pretty clever college student coming from a highly intellectual family so noone especially a goverment which i hate and despise can brainwash me
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It's very rude for you to say those things because you don't know me at all. I am also a college student and I have done much research and several essays on this topic. I've studied books by people who believe there was a genocide and people who deny it. I believe that there was a genocide not only because of my family's experience, but also because I think that it has been proven. I think that you have to research both sides in order to make that decision and it seems to me that you have only researched the Turkish side. I don't hate Turkish people or any other race, but it angers me that whenever someone trys to mention the genocide the Turkish government accuse them of lying. Denying the Armenian genocide is like denying the Holocaust or denying slavery. I have not been to Turkey, but I do know that there is not as much racism against Armenians and other minorities as there was in the past. I don't think Armenians are brutalized now, but they definitely were before. Turkey has improved a lot since the early 20th century, which is why I think it's a shame that they won't admit what they have done. I actually agree with you that it was the decision of Ottoman Empire rulers, not the Turkish people's, just like the Holocaust was Hitler's decision, not the German people's. I know that the Turkish army was only doing their job and following the orders of a fanatical, evil man. There are records of many Turkish soldiers who admitted to killing the Armenians at that time. I also think that the Armenians didn't want to be part of Turkey or Russia, either. They wanted to have their own country, but since that was not possible they chose to be part of Russia, which was a much stronger country. You are angry about the new law in France, but isn't there also a law in Turkey that says that people can't talk about the genocide because it's an insult to Turkey? Many Turkish intellectuals, for example Orhan Pamuk, who believe that there was a genocide are arrested. Also, the American ambassador in Armenia was fired for mentioning the genocide. The U.S. has tried to make several films about the genocide, but each time the Turkish government has suppressed them. Honestly, I disagree with the French law because although I believe that there was a genocide and that it should be recognized all over the world, I also believe that people should have freedom of speech. I hope that someday Armenian and Turkish politicians can have an intelligent debate on this and come to a conclusion on what really happened.
