Children -- yay or nay?

medusalox

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Originally Posted by kaliraksha
Medusalox, I went to an antique show once and there was a huge display of creepy baby dolls... and I saw on in a basket and I was like "omg that one is so realstic it even has boogies!" and then it cried at me.... and the mom turned around and gave me a funny look but obviously had not heard me =(

Seriously, that just made my day!
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Reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where someone's friend had a hideous baby...the look on Kramer's face when he laid eyes on the kid...priceless! hehehe!
 

miss holly j

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I couldn't image not having children. Ever since I can remember I was playing with baby dolls and packing lunchs for my husband. (those lunchs consisted of a raw potatoe in a zip lock bag) but still.

I want children because I want to show them the world, teach and nuture them and make them the best person they can be. I want to some them things I missed out on and give them the best childhood/life possible.
 

glamdoll

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I always always knew I didnt want kids. Ever.
My family thought that I was weird and that "someday"
I would change my mind. They thought Id end up just like
my aunt who died at 72 childfree and lonely.
I never touched kids. Never got around kids. I just dont like kids.
I still dont like kids. Except mine.

Me n my husband are 18 n 19. I was on the pill, but the doctor gave me the "mini pill" and didnt explain it to me very well that if I didnt take it on the HOUR even being an HOUR late on takin it it could get me pregnant. My doctor now, told me that it was their mistake because since I had no known medical condition I shouldnt have been givin that. I should have gotten the one w enough estrogen that if I missed a day i could still be ok. anyway.

It wasnt a choice I fully made. thou i did pick a part I guess.

Its a very hard life indeed. I have No one to watch My son, therefore the hubby works extra hard an goes to school. We donot receive government help. but we receive help from his parents.

In a way at times I wonder what my life would be like had I not gotten pregnant. But I know that there is NO WAY that I could be doing better. Honestly.

I love my son so much! so much. I have never ever thought that it was capable to hold such love in my heart.
and I totally respect women who choose not to.
You think you love your SO but this love is just so different.
Im not trying to push or force anything on anyone .

It like for example your boyfriend or whatever cheats on you or lies to you, you call it quits, your done , you wont put up with it.
Your child gets caught stealing or doing something wrong,
you feel disapointed but have enough love to try an help them.

I dont know but I jsut feel like I love my son sooo much that I wish
I HADN'T had him because of the fear of pedofiles, gangsters, what if they bully him at school, what if someone hurts him..
just thinking all of that makes me wanna cry!
and thats why Irespect ppl that choose not too also. they have their own reasons and also know that it would be a bigger pain to know of such love and bring them to this misery.

but over all I wouldnt change him for the world!!
I dont want anymore kids. I didnt like the pregnancy/labor thing.. worse thing ever.. but I love him. My gramma tells me all the time
"HOw can u do this to him? how can u be so selfish to not give him a brother or sister, he is going to hate you"
and my hubby wants 5boys!!!

but for me Im done. I think he is enough to keep me busy and fullfill my life!

thanks for letting me rant! I just had to express what Ive been feeling lately
 

giz2000

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Originally Posted by glamdoll
I always always knew I didnt want kids. Ever.
My family thought that I was weird and that "someday"
I would change my mind. They thought Id end up just like
my aunt who died at 72 childfree and lonely.
I never touched kids. Never got around kids. I just dont like kids.
I still dont like kids. Except mine.

Me n my husband are 18 n 19. I was on the pill, but the doctor gave me the "mini pill" and didnt explain it to me very well that if I didnt take it on the HOUR even being an HOUR late on takin it it could get me pregnant. My doctor now, told me that it was their mistake because since I had no known medical condition I shouldnt have been givin that. I should have gotten the one w enough estrogen that if I missed a day i could still be ok. anyway.

It wasnt a choice I fully made. thou i did pick a part I guess.

Its a very hard life indeed. I have No one to watch My son, therefore the hubby works extra hard an goes to school. We donot receive government help. but we receive help from his parents.

In a way at times I wonder what my life would be like had I not gotten pregnant. But I know that there is NO WAY that I could be doing better. Honestly.

I love my son so much! so much. I have never ever thought that it was capable to hold such love in my heart.
and I totally respect women who choose not to.
You think you love your SO but this love is just so different.
Im not trying to push or force anything on anyone .

It like for example your boyfriend or whatever cheats on you or lies to you, you call it quits, your done , you wont put up with it.
Your child gets caught stealing or doing something wrong,
you feel disapointed but have enough love to try an help them.

I dont know but I jsut feel like I love my son sooo much that I wish
I HADN'T had him because of the fear of pedofiles, gangsters, what if they bully him at school, what if someone hurts him..
just thinking all of that makes me wanna cry!
and thats why Irespect ppl that choose not too also. they have their own reasons and also know that it would be a bigger pain to know of such love and bring them to this misery.

but over all I wouldnt change him for the world!!
I dont want anymore kids. I didnt like the pregnancy/labor thing.. worse thing ever.. but I love him. My gramma tells me all the time
"HOw can u do this to him? how can u be so selfish to not give him a brother or sister, he is going to hate you"
and my hubby wants 5boys!!!

but for me Im done. I think he is enough to keep me busy and fullfill my life!

thanks for letting me rant! I just had to express what Ive been feeling lately



I swear, you are the most mature 18 year old on earth! Good for you for loving your son so much and being a great mom!!
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Corien

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I'm not fond off childeren, but I know I will grow out of that, and yes, I want to have childeren, but I don't know when. Probably not now and not in the next few years.
 

macslut

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Absolutely Nay. I love children, I just don't want any. I am missing the mothering gene I guess.
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macslut

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Originally Posted by Corien
I'm not fond off childeren, but I know I will grow out of that, and yes, I want to have childeren, but I don't know when. Probably not now and not in the next few years.

there is absolutely no rush. You only really have to worry at about 35 years and then it isn't much of a worry. You just have to get some extra tests and all as your chances of birth defects, down's go up some.
 

macslut

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Originally Posted by glamdoll
Me n my husband are 18 n 19. I was on the pill, but the doctor gave me the "mini pill" and didnt explain it to me very well that if I didnt take it on the HOUR even being an HOUR late on takin it it could get me pregnant. My doctor now, told me that it was their mistake because since I had no known medical condition I shouldnt have been givin that. I should have gotten the one w enough estrogen that if I missed a day i could still be ok. anyway.


What the hell is a mini pill????? If you miss it, you punch out mini babies. Is it one of the those low estrogen "only have a 3 day period" pills.
 

*Luna*

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Wanting a baby is something that is realatively new to me. Before marriage I was undecided. I never saw my self as either being a mother or not being a mother. I think I had the advantage of watching my mother give birth to my sister. Don't get me wrong, it was the most amazingly beautiful thing I've ever witnessed but I was also 14.5 years old and it was the best birth control I could have ever been given. Having a baby in the home at that age really made me realize what a comitment a child really is. I know that sounds lame but at 14, that's a huge realization to have. I met my husband over 6 years ago and we started dating over 3 years ago. We got married last June so it's almost been a year now. I really started with the baby feaver over the holidays. Our families live in CA and we are in AZ now. It was our first Christmas away from home and I realized that I want a family of our own... we want to start our own traditions with our children and have our own family Christmas. The baby feaver has calmed down a bit. We have already talked about when we want to stop taking the pill... It's really got both of our brains going. The lifestyle changes and responsiblilites, not to mention child care and everything else involved... it's a HUGE decision to make. Right now we are in the "we think we are ready but do you ever really know when your ready?" stage. It's a really interesting process to go though. I kinda sat here and really thought about it before I started typing this. It's crazy to go from talking about never having kids to when we want to start trying. Now my concerns are not that I will get pregnant but that I won't. As far as I know neither one of us have any reproductive issues but it is a genuine concern. I didn't realize that soooo many couples have infertility issues and it's made me wonder if I am one of them. I hope and pray that I'm not but I guess you never know until you start tying. I'm really thankful that neither one of us have children yet and that it's something that we can experience for the first time together. I've realized that I want a child not just to have a baby but to lovingly create something with my husband and care for and nurture it together. It will be a product of us and I don't think there is anything more romantic in the world.

Now that being said, I know SEVERAL woman who either don't want children, several couples with infertility problems and about 8 women who are currently pregnant. I completely understand why someone would not want to have children. As previously stated, it's a HUGE comitment and lifestyle change for these couples it's a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of situation. They are perfectly happy in their marriage and don't want anything to change that. Fair enough. My friends who have infertility issues go 2 seperate routs. I have the one side who so desperately want a biological child she is currently using injectible drugs to get her ovaries to produce eggs. I know others who pretend they are ok with never having children but I know they are really hurt by it. It kills me that my friends who desperately want children can't, there is nothing they can do short of adopt. It's just so hard to look around and see so many young girls having children that they can't properly care for while attending and finishing high school. That is not meant to offend anyone, but MOST people who get pregnant at such a young age aren't able to proved for their children the way some one else who planned a child could, but I know that there are exceptions. I hope that makes sense.

So, I suppose my answer is YES, I want children. Sorry for such a long winded post but I'm at the age where everyone is getting married and having babies right now so my circle of friends is quite active in this department at the moment.
 

Kiwi Girlie

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I've always wanted kids, I love them. I love babysitting other peoples kids they are so much fun!

I guess in some ways I feel like it's my duty to have kids as a woman, but I also see how happy mothers are after they've had their babies and how much they love and care for them. And I love my relationship with my mother and want to have that with children of my own
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And like Luna said, it's a product of you and your husband/partner, and that really is a beautiful thing, Wouldn't it be the nicest feeling to look at a baby and know that you created that tiny person yourselves.

Im in a dilema at the moment though, my boyfriend of 4+ years doesn't want kids EVER and NEVER wants to get married, news to me, as he told me he did a while ago. So that could be a problem
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ShirleyK

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I want kids someday...

and talk about selfish MAC_Whore? have it then you feel different, that's absurd... children are not MAC eyeshadows that we could exchange anytime...
It's more selfish for those who have kids but not taking care of them and abuse them.

For Women out there... just have kids when you think you are ready for them... don't have to care what people say, they are not the one who's going to bring up and nurture your children, send your children go to school, meet teachers when they're in the detention class, break the fight with other children, or even feed your children, when they're hungry...

Those are who we called selfish, they are not the one who's doing our job and they won't do ours jobs but dare to say something like selfish to us...

Am I too emotional? All right chill out girls...
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I'm against nobody here..
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triccc

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I am 23 and totally thought that being 23 wasn't old enough for children.

But I have a 4 month old and I love it! Having her has forced me to grow up a bit, but what the hell is wrong with that!?
I did all my partying already. Getting drunk and staying out all night lost it's appeal to me after I got a boyfriend and was well into a loving relationship.
My pregnancy was a complete accident, but me and my boyfriend both decided to have her anyways.


Having a child isn't for everyone.
But I am so glad I have mine!
 

Raerae

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Originally Posted by *Luna*
So, I suppose my answer is YES, I want children. Sorry for such a long winded post but I'm at the age where everyone is getting married and having babies right now so my circle of friends is quite active in this department at the moment.

Kinda wierd how that happens...

A few years back the idea of having pregnant friends seemed pretty crazy... Or even married friends... Now it seems like everyone I know is married or in a long term comitted relationship. Some have a few kids, some have just one but want more. Others (the minority) are like me and still kinda floating along in limbo lol...
 

hoemygosh

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well i have seriously contemplated having kids before, but i really dont think i could take on that responsibility right now. im pretty young, 19, but MANY of my friends are either pregnant or already had kids. I really just dont feel ready, i dont really know where im going in life yet, i would need to be a stable person (emotionally/ money wise) before i could take care of another person 24/7. at least thats how i look at it.
 

Pink Xenomorph

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This is a rather old thread, but for once I actually have something worthwhile to say here so forgive me for bumping it up.

Children. Nay for me.

This is not something I will grow out of. I'm twenty-two and so is my fiancee. She doesn't want kids either.

Number one, I'm disabled. I have a connective tissue disorder called Ehlers-Danlos. My particular type is hypermobility, MEANING: all the muscles, tendons, cartilage, fat tissue, skin tissue and vascular tissues have a very weak consistency and they tear, dislocate, subluxate and break very easily. My geneticist tells me that I have one of the worst cases of hypermobility EDS that he's ever seen (go me). If I were to have a child 'the natural way', there's an eighty percent chance that I'd die in child-birth. I've been told that by both my geneticist and my former gyno.

This does not upset me.

I'm one of those odd women who cannot fucking STAND children. When I'm around them, my blood starts to boil, I unconciously bite the inside of my cheek from rage and I struggle like hell to control my temper. Particularly if the little demons run up to me and yank down on my hair (my hair hangs down to the insides of my knees) or yanks down on my corset strings that perpetually hang out the back of my shirt/dress/whatever (I have to wear a corset because of spinal instability. that and I adore the way they feel) I don't find children cute, amusing, lovable, or any other positive thing that other people do. I hate them. Part of this stems from the fact that my mum's a kindergarten teacher and because of that I was around kindergarteners all the time growing up. Even as a child, I hated children. I found them annoying, bratty, self-centered, loud, and useless. Yes I had friends in my own age-group, but not very many (that was due to the fact that I was the darkest kid at a private school, and because I was a girl who loved horror films). Now that I'm older I've found I hate a good deal of people my age and older as well. The other part of my hatred of children stems from my hatred of the human race. Yes there are some good things about humans, but considering that we've gang raped the planet and killed off so many animals when we're not killing and raping each other...well, forgive me if I don't want to create another human.

Then, of course, there are the financial reasons. I don't want to care for another being for twenty plus years. That's what's happened to my mother. She adopted me with no knowledge that I had EDS because the woman who squirted me out didn't know she had EDS. I'm twenty-two and still living at home and my health's so bad that I'm a huge financial burden on her. My disability's helped some, but still...she's the only one in the family that can work--my dad's heart's so bad he can barely move some days--and sometimes I feel like I'm causing her to work herself to death simply so I'll be able to stay a dependent on her insurance. I guilt like fuck about that because my dad and I hate each other, but my mum and I are majorly, uberly close. I love her so much and I hate the fact that I'm the reason she can't retire yet.

Back on topic. I'd much rather pursue my own happiness and that of my wife. She loves Indian and Hindi clothing as well as MAC and other cosmetic lines, so I've been buying her the beginnings of her own collection as she currently lives out in the country in Australia. I myself love finely made expensive as hell lingerie like Agent Provocateur and La Perla in addition to my love of rubber and latex clothing like Marquis sells and the fact that I want to start up a custom-made corset collection. Then there's my art. Acrylic, alcohol markers, watercolor, gouache, etc. Then there's H's aspirations of us starting our own special effects company. We have way too many endeavors that we'll gladly put in front of children.

My fiancee understands my revulsion of children--she shares the same attitudes. One of the reasons I'm marrying her. All the boyfriends I had in the past at one time wanted to talk to me about children. It didn't seem to matter to them that I hated them, would've been a terrible mother and probably would've left the kid and the husband altogether, oh no, they still pressured me to adopt a kid with them. Or fuck to have one, regardless that childbirth would kill me.

Even if childbirth didn't kill me, there's a fifty-fifty chance that I'd curse my spawn with my EDS and as much as I hate kids, no kid should go through the chronic pain, dislocations and subluxations that I have to. And the stupid thing is that my siblings do, all because my birth-mother's a stupid uneducated irresponsible bitch!

My mum adopted me when I was a few days old. I was born by a fourteen year old idiot who had a previous child by her boyfriend. She gave me up for adoption and then got pregnant four more times. Jesus Christ, just fucking shoot me. There's a good chance that my siblings, wherever they may be now, are half if not all afflicted with EDS syndrome thanks to my bitch of a birth-mother. Honestly, is it that hard to tell your boyfriend, "No, I'm not gonna fuck you. I've had six kids, goddammit! You want sex, go get a whore!"

This is not to say I'm devoid of a maternal instinct. I actually have a very strong one. It's gone toward nurturing animals in need. I used to be a squirrel rehabilitator and me and my mum took in baby squirrels that fell from their nests and had nowhere to go. (some people have an undying hatred of squirrels. I have an undying hatred of children. I mother squirrels, others mother kids. to each their own I guess.) How I loved caring for them....feeding them their milk wrapped up in my lap, holding them till they fell asleep, playing with them, and then releasing them out in our backyard. If you go outside in our backyard, about ten squirrels will jump down from trees to say hello, purring and jumping with happiness (and yes, squirrels do purr when happy. it's louder and a bit deeper than a cat's purr).

Because I'm more disabled than I used to be I had to quit rehabbing and it about broke my heart. Mum got me several rats to help with my loneliness and now I spoil them rotten. I'm planning on getting a Gambian Pouch Rat when my standard fancy rats have finally passed away. I'm a rodent person.

Show me a hairless, eyes-closed baby rat or baby squirrel and I'll squee and go all melty and maternal on you. Show me a human baby and I'll flinch back and insist that no, it's okay, I really don't want to hold it, it's all good. really.

I don't like children. I never will. And I'm disabled to the point where adopting a child would be incredibly abusive because I wouldn't be able to care for it and neither would my soon-to-be wife. She's disabled as well, spinal instability and her skin burns severely with the slightest exposure to the sun, the exact name of the disorder escapes me at the moment. So the maternal stirrings we have result in rats, rabbits, guinea pigs, flying squirrels and the occasional cat. We're happy like that, too. We adore our little animal-kids.

It does, however, piss me off when people tell us that if we love our animals we'll just adore a child, that oh you're young you'll change your minds and, of course my all-time favorite, 'all women love children!'. Thank you for the moralizing, jackasses, but I think we know our own minds. And we're happily childfree. I still can't figure out how or why that upsets people so greatly. Why the fuck would anyone want me to reproduce? Do you want a child to suffer with EDS? I'll tell people that during children-rearing debates and some will come back with, "Yeah, but there's a chance it wouldn't get your disease!" I'll answer, "You'd have me take that fifty-fifty chance of giving a kid a degenerative connective tissue disease?" More often than not, they'll say that they absolutely would want me to go for it.

I think that's all my reasonings for wanting no children, ever. If I've left out any words or misspelled any, you have my apologies.
 
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